Pic of the Week comp ? [Archive] - The Photo Beat - Photography Discussion and Critique Forum

Lensmeister

04-13-2009, 12:15 PM

Maybe we could have a "Pic of the week" as chosen by a member i.e. this week it could be Anty next me, following Invisible etc. or the Mods.

Your Own photos are not allowed if you are choosing. No prizes could be given and maybe I could keep a league table. 1st = 3 points, 2nd = 2 pints and 3rd = 1 point.

Terri

04-13-2009, 01:51 PM

1st = 3 points, 2nd = 2 pints and 3rd = 1 point. Having a competition where everyone wants to be 2nd seems kind of....I don't know, anticlimactic? :cheers:

:mrgreen:

Seriously, this would be fine by me, as long as there is sufficient interest and someone wants to run it.

So, let's hear some more folks weigh in! Thoughts?

Overread

04-13-2009, 02:09 PM

interesting idea - I know some sites have similar setups - though as this site grows I can see the number of submissions might get to be a lot - especaily in a full week. Expecting someone to have to go through the whole lot might be a bit much as the site grows up - and it would be a shame to have to lose something fun like this as time went on.

You could try a weekly photo with weekly judge by having people submit a shot (or maybe a few shots) from the week to a single thread and then the weekly judge picks from those options.

Aggie

04-13-2009, 02:30 PM

problem with one or a few, is that some will submit their one best, while others will submit every single shot they've taken. It should be limited to ONE submission no matter what.

Lensmeister

04-13-2009, 02:37 PM

ok how about members nominate an image from the week then the judges choose from these ?

For example. Three nominations could be:

A. #1 from http://www.thephotobeat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=399
B. #1 from http://www.thephotobeat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=412
C. #1 from http://www.thephotobeat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=383

Just chose three at random. The Three Judges this week are me, Anty and Chiller.

A = 2 points.
B = 1 point.
C = 3 points.

Therefore the first weeks table would read:

Junior Lensmeister 3
Johngpt 2
Rene 1

Junior only got top marks coz his was the last post I visited ... honest.

Antarctican

04-13-2009, 03:16 PM

You'd rather have a shot chosen as often as every week, as opposed to a photo of the month?

And there seems to be several suggestions floated in this thread: eg. that members nominate (one of) their own shots, or that others nominate someone else's shots from which a judge-or-judges choose, and yet another version that a single judge picks one (or more?) shot(s) by themself. Any other suggestions, so we have all the options set out?

Chiller

04-13-2009, 03:39 PM

Im for it. I might even post a photo or two. :biglaugh::biglaugh:

But I would rather have a potm.:mrgreen: We have enough members here, that we could have a nomination thread and a voting thread at the end of the month. Just my opinion...I will be off now, and go lurk in my crypt againhttp://bestsmileys.com/halloween3/18.gif

Lord Montagu the 3rd

04-13-2009, 03:40 PM

Any other suggestions, so we have all the options set out?

just pick one of mine every week, sounds good to me. might even post a snow rat or two ;-)

Overread

04-13-2009, 04:17 PM

how about we run both -

A POTW where each person gets one submission and then a weekly judge picks the best (judge could be on a rota or just be the winner from that pervious week)

and

A POTM where its a nomination based award where people nominate works of others for the selection and then its voted on by the community.

oh and we could have an LP awards section -- sorry LM3rd section if we want (But if he gets one then I want one too!!)

kundalini

04-13-2009, 06:30 PM

How about the top three spots are decided by a poll? That way no one person or persons are strapped with the sole responsibility week/month in, week/month out.

Aggie

04-13-2009, 06:55 PM

How about the top three spots are decided by a poll? That way no one person or persons are strapped with the sole responsibility week/month in, week/month out.

So long as you can only vote once in the poll. How about bi weekly. That is a spilt between (sort of) the monthly and weekly competitions.

invisible

04-13-2009, 07:03 PM

Seriously, this would be fine by me, as long as there is sufficient interest and someone wants to run it.
I can do it.

What's wrong with the way the POTM is run on The Other Side? Why reinvent the wheel? I personally like it when candidates are selected by others, and the winner is chosen by popular vote.

I think there are not enough TPB members yet to run it weekly. Bi-weekly (as suggested by Aggie) could work better, although monthly seems to be the way to go right now –at least in my mind.

kundalini

04-13-2009, 07:23 PM

So long as you can only vote once in the poll.
Silly me..... there I go assuming the honor system again.

Actually I thought the poll system would lock you out from voting again.

MissMia

04-13-2009, 07:38 PM

...What's wrong with the way the POTM is run on The Other Side? Why reinvent the wheel? I personally like it when candidates are selected by others, and the winner is chosen by popular vote. ....

I agree. POTM sounds good.

Lensmeister

04-14-2009, 01:53 AM

POTM

members can nominate anyone but NOT their own photos, then goes to a vote.

Top 3 get
1st = 3 pts.
2nd = 2 pts.
3rd = 1 pt.

League table easy to make in Excel which I excel in (pardon the pun).

Lord Montagu the 3rd

04-14-2009, 03:46 AM

What's wrong with the way the POTM is run on The Other Side?

well.....
1. it never starts and ends at the beginning and end of the month so if you post a photo on the 1st people have forgotten all about by the 7th when the thread for nominations is created.

2. no one ever votes

3. just look at the lack of nominations

4. a month is too long for the voting, you get about 1 vote per day when the forum has over 130 members online at any one time

5. the nomination thread is always a total mess with people chatting and new members posting their own photos. Sometimes you get 1 photo in that thread 4 times where people have quoted it in replies.

6. the voting thread should include the photos

need I go on??

POTW is a much better idea. Then at the end of the year you have a POTY voted from all that years POTW's

invisible

04-14-2009, 07:26 AM

well.....
1. it never starts and ends at the beginning and end of the month so if you post a photo on the 1st people have forgotten all about by the 7th when the thread for nominations is created.

2. no one ever votes

3. just look at the lack of nominations

4. a month is too long for the voting, you get about 1 vote per day when the forum has over 130 members online at any one time

5. the nomination thread is always a total mess with people chatting and new members posting their own photos. Sometimes you get 1 photo in that thread 4 times where people have quoted it in replies.

6. the voting thread should include the photos

need I go on??
Don't hold back, tell us how you really feel about TPF's system :lol:

Chiller

04-14-2009, 07:28 AM

The potm isnt that hard to pull off. When I used to do it elsewhere...we had a nomination thread, and at the last day of the month, I would host the pics on my site, and when you click the photo, a bigger version would come up. Then we only had a 7 day voting period beginning the first day.
To get participation, it has to be "advertised" In other places, those threads sit dormant, and the voting is limited. I would have a link in my signature with a clicky to the voting thread. It is a matter of getting all the lazy people to go to that thread, and make the effort to vote. :biglaugh:

Aggie

04-14-2009, 08:05 AM

In the beginning since we are a smaller community, why not forego the nominating part? If we are limited to ONE submission I doubt we will be swamped. If it gets unweildy then it can be re-evaluated. I still think weekly is too much. Monthly would be great but people lose interest to easily until the last week as Chiller reccommended. Bi weekly would allow for a week of submissions, then a week of voting. Done via a poll it eliminates the mis use of the voting system. Bi weekly would also give 26 winners that could run for the POTY. If ya'll like I can kick in a dozen Ornaments for the winner of the yearly contest. I can also do a single ornament for those who win the weekly/biweekly/monthly contest. I know they are not photography related, but it is something to win. I make them so my cost is very low. Maybe others make things that could also go to the winners. I also like the back stories about the photos. Maybe we could through one of those do it yourself book companies do a compilation of the winners for the year with their back story. These are random thoughts at 7 am after a sleepless night. Other than the ornaments i don't want to do anything with it but submit a photo.

Overread

04-14-2009, 08:32 AM

Don't hold back, tell us how you really feel about TPF's system :lol:

he just wants his second microlight ;)

Aggie - I think we should start the idea off with the concept of the site growing - otherwise you will get a terrible teething period as you have to change the system - oldtimers will start singing like swans about the forum and newcommers will feel like they are missing out on something. Granted we are small now, but I don't think that will be a perminant state

Chiller

04-14-2009, 09:12 AM

he just wants his second microlight ;)

Dont worry...they never show up. I never got the first one. :biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh:

Lord Montagu the 3rd

04-14-2009, 09:15 AM

Dont worry...they never show up. I never got the first one. :biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh:

Well I have my first one right in front of me but never got the second one

Chiller

04-14-2009, 09:42 AM

Well I have my first one right in front of me but never got the second one

Hah...so you got mine. :batterup:

Aggie

04-14-2009, 10:29 AM

Aggie - I think we should start the idea off with the concept of the site growing - otherwise you will get a terrible teething period as you have to change the system - oldtimers will start singing like swans about the forum and newcommers will feel like they are missing out on something. Granted we are small now, but I don't think that will be a perminant state

I never said it had to be static. I said re-evaluate as it grows. Right now to limit our group to a small percentage of those submitted is cutting some out of a SMALL group. There is no need to on the short end of excluding anyone. As time goes by and the site grows which i know it will, then you can insitute limits. There is no teething or chewing of biscuits needed for this. It is trying not to exclude any from the group while have the advantage of being still small. Growth will change it, but for now it would be more fun to include all those who want to be included. Like grade school where all get included in activities. By High School there are groups that exclude. We are still in the infancy stage where we can be more flexible. Even with growth what gets set up now will most likely not be the case in the future. No matter if we do selection of a small group to vie for the photo of the.... That in the future may change to a panel picking what they like, or a random selection generated by a computer selection. Who knows what the future will change it too. Right now have fun with it and let all participate while they can.

Lensmeister

04-14-2009, 10:39 AM

/me wishes he'd never started this :(

Overread

04-14-2009, 10:44 AM

why?
no fights happening that I can see - barring two people fighting over a torch ;)

honestly its good that we are doing it now with a smaller user base - everyone can pitch in and have their say and then we can plan round that :)

Terri

04-14-2009, 10:47 AM

MissMia

04-14-2009, 10:51 AM

POTM or POTW is fine with me. I like the way the other side does it - with a nomination thread.

I'd be happy to help too.

Chiller

04-14-2009, 10:54 AM

^^ Why? :) Look at the enthusiasm with which it's been greeted. Clearly people are keen to the idea. We're just working through various approaches. Everyone has ideas, and this is a positive thing.

I like what I'm hearing so far. Would this be something that could be run by one person, or should there be a rotating tag-team effort of some kind? I don't want anyone to get burned out.

It can be run by one person, as long as the person can do it at the end of every month. Also implement someone who can back she/he up, just in case that person is on holidays or something. I found when I was doing it before, month end at work sometimes got in the way, but the latest was a day or two behind. I just changed the voting period to 6 days. Leaving a link in the signature, and also a thread in the off topics for the socialites to go vote. Even tho the other forums were smaller, we had more voters then that other big forum.:mrgreen:

kundalini

04-14-2009, 11:45 AM

Decisions by commitee often get prolonged. Why don't we say the SOMETHING will begin by the first of next month and SOMEONE will spearhead it. Keep it bendy for growth and adjustment.

Also keep this dialogue up and open since many of the ideas are good so far. As the community grows, other good ideas will come about. I think any kind of fun challenge that all that wish to participate in will only help the lurkers to become members....... FUN being the operative word.

Antarctican

04-14-2009, 02:15 PM

I like the idea of the membership voting on the photos, as opposed to one person (or committee) choosing the winner. We're small enough (and keen enough) that the problems of voter apathy experienced elsewhere hopefully won't happen here. We need to make sure that in addition to voters, we have nominators as well.

As Chiller said, the person who runs it would/should arrange for backup in the event they can't end off one contest and start the next on time each month/2 weeks/week (or whatever length of time we decide on). My gut feeling is that 'weekly' may be too often. How 'bout we start with bi-weekly and see how it goes?

Terri, would the contests go in a separate subforum?

kundalini

04-14-2009, 04:07 PM

Terri, would the contests go in a separate subforum?
Yeah, a Challenges or Contest or Whatever Name fits would be good. Surely more will crop up in the future........ (like the 52 week project....)

Terri

04-14-2009, 08:57 PM

Yes - I can open a new forum just for this. What shall we call it? :)

Chiller

04-14-2009, 09:27 PM

Yes - I can open a new forum just for this. What shall we call it? :)
Contests and Challenges. It could cover the potm, or if down the road, we have themed challenges, where a vote might take place they can be held there as well. :hmm:

Antarctican

04-15-2009, 02:26 AM

^^^ Sounds good!

Chiller

04-15-2009, 09:36 AM

^^^ Sounds good!
Just a quick thought...will there be a seperate area for this, so the potm is not tucked away, and hidden from view. :-)

Terri

04-15-2009, 09:48 AM

I prefer to avoid the use of the word "Challenge". :razz:

What else ya got?

Antarctican

04-15-2009, 10:00 AM

For those of you monitoring this thread, I started a Photo Contest in a separate thread...the link is in my signature. Start reviewing the subforums, and nominate some pics, okay?

And since we're trying out the bi-weekly format, does anyone have a catchy title? PotM and PotW are catchy, but we can't use 'em for a bi-weekly contest. And 'Photo of the Bi-Week' just doesn't have a nice ring to it! :blush:

Chiller

04-15-2009, 10:08 AM

I prefer to avoid the use of the word "Challenge". :razz:

What else ya got?

Challenge could be for a later date. I could be more of monthly thing, where we acutally issue a challenge. Like..go shoot something....Abstract....or a Clown....or go shoot your neighbors ...o.k...maybe not that, but y'all get the point. :lol:

Aggie

04-15-2009, 12:33 PM

So without further discussion as to the perimeters, the launch and rules have been implemented arbitrairly?

Antarctican

04-15-2009, 12:43 PM

Oh dear, blame me Aggie! I saw that people were interested in a photo contest, and decided to wade in and start one. Striking while the iron was hot, as it were. I figured we could tweak it as we go, and that by choosing the mid-point between a weekly and a monthly contest (ie by having it a bi-weekly contest - which was something you were in favour of), I would hopefully be keeping everyone relatively happy. Sometimes my enthusiasm takes over. :blush:

Since we're going to be tweaking anyway, keep posting suggestions. We can try out several different options (eg self-nominated pics, one or more secret judges, more or less frequent voting etc etc) if there's sufficient interest.

Lensmeister

04-15-2009, 12:49 PM

Anty, I feel I must punish you when we meet in May. I think a good spank will suffice! :whip:

;)

Antarctican

04-15-2009, 12:51 PM

^^^ On advice of counsel, I am advised not to respond to that invitation.

(Oooo, if you're a definite attendee, I get to select a smilie to go in my signature to represent you. Heh heh)

Lensmeister

04-15-2009, 01:07 PM

We are about 50% at the moment ...

Aggie

04-15-2009, 01:50 PM

Antarctican

04-15-2009, 04:09 PM

having pics nominated can easily lead to favoritism based on personalities. Limiting it to just three when the poll can handle 10 seems very limiting to me as well. Would it not be better to do a process where a person submits 1 photo they think would be best for the competition, then if we get more than 10 submissions, do the moniating thing out of the submissions? It gives a broader scope of pics to choose from in the final poll.The limit of 3 nominations is per member nominating. So if, for example, 10 members all nominate 3 shots, there would be 30 photos in that contest. So there should be plenty of scope of pics to choose from in the final poll, assuming members support the contest by nominating and voting for pictures.

Lord Montagu the 3rd

04-15-2009, 04:17 PM

having pics nominated can easily lead to favoritism based on personalities.

then only vote for people you hate? :lol:

I think the whole point of this comp is for fun, a bit of a laugh if you will, not to be taken seriously, a bit of light hearted entertainment etc etc

Chiller

04-15-2009, 05:27 PM

then only vote for people you hate? :lol:

I think the whole point of this comp is for fun, a bit of a laugh if you will, not to be taken seriously, a bit of light hearted entertainment etc etc
Im glad I stopped posting pics..I dont want to be a hated person. Chiller is the one you should hate. He makes me do bad things. :batterup:

Antarctican

04-15-2009, 05:46 PM

Im glad I stopped posting pics..Bite your tongue! And you better start posting again, mister!!

Please?

Pretty Please?

Terri

04-15-2009, 08:09 PM

Anty, one of your smilies in the signature is showing to me as a red X. :( Anyone else having trouble seeing it?

I understand Aggie's point. I suppose for the sake of getting things moving, we can leave it to 3 nominations allowed per member - and let's see how it rolls out.

I agree this is something for fun, and I'm all for keeping things lighthearted. Some among us do know each other better than others, and my hope is this does not turn "cliquey", but members make an effort to view and choose from the great variety of the good work that has already sprung up here.

With that in mind, I am dubbing the contest forum "The Best of the Beat" - and our winners will have their images showcased front & center on the Beat's front page. We want to attract more great photographers and this can be our way of strutting our stuff. :D

We are a young forum and a work in progress. That's what our Feedback forum is here for, so anyone can raise a hand and offer ongoing suggestions and ideas as we grow. Keep it up!

Chiller

04-15-2009, 08:16 PM

Red X for me too Anty. :(

Bite your tongue! And you better start posting again, mister!!

Please?

Pretty Please?

http://bestsmileys.com/nono/1.gif

Antarctican

04-16-2009, 09:33 AM

Hmmm, I can see the smilie in my signature (this trumpeter/announcer guy: http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/8292/announcing.gif).

Terri

04-16-2009, 09:47 AM

Hmmm, I can see the smilie in my signature (this trumpeter/announcer guy: http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/8292/announcing.gif).I think we can see the trumpeter guy, too, but next to him there is a red X, as if there were another smilie with a broken link...? At least, that's what I'm seeing.