View Full Version : Second Manipulation Attempt
Rolleimaniac
03-04-2009, 12:10 PM
My first, several years ago, was a SX-70 Time Zero photo that I mauled with a golf tee. I TRIED to use a little more finesse here.
Bryce Canyon / Rolleiflex 3.5F Planar / Fuji RVP 100 / Daylab w/Artistic TZ film
http://i651.photobucket.com/albums/uu237/rolleimaniac/CopyofZManip.jpg
PhotoJet
03-04-2009, 03:14 PM
This is cool! :cheer:
At last, a worthwhile use for a golf tee!!! :biglaugh:
Chris of Arabia
03-04-2009, 03:29 PM
At last, a worthwhile use for a golf tee!!! :biglaugh:
Heathen! :raisedbrow:
Nice image though, looks like the technique worked well.
Antarctican
03-04-2009, 03:38 PM
At last, a worthwhile use for a golf tee!!! :biglaugh:http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/8861/teehee.gif
Just kidding.
The effect is amazing...absolutely blows my mind. You must get a real kick out of being able to create an image like that.
Aggie
03-04-2009, 03:38 PM
Aw gooping the loop. You would have to be a local to know what that is at Bryce.
MissMia
03-04-2009, 03:54 PM
Just beautiful! Zion & Bryce are two of my favorite places.
Terri
03-04-2009, 09:42 PM
Aw gooping the loop. You would have to be a local to know what that is at Bryce.:lol: Not being a local, I've not heard that one! But oh, we had fun there. Except for the moment when I first realized I'd forgotten to pack my knee braces, and within 20 yards of descent with my camera backpack, both my knees were blown. :irked: Not to be deterred, we found a little store that had ACE bandages, so I wrapped my knees the next day and loaded up on ibuprofen, so I could hike and photograph. You can barely make out those wrapped knees in this picture. Still don't know what I was aiming at.
I was impressed at the nice colors he got on the Polaroid with this image, where mine were so much more muted. :thumbup: Each of us had a slide with some vivid blue sky, only his is showing very well here in the upper right, and in mine it went very pale. Difference in slide films, maybe? Have to experiment more while we can.
Karissa
03-04-2009, 10:13 PM
To be honest, i'm still completely confused by this alternative process. If I'm ever near Terri, you must show me what this is and on top of that prove to me that these actually did start out as photos.
karissa,
think of a "normal" polariod photo, even something like a 600 type film.
then before the emulsion is set, we move it around , distorting what was the orginal image.
hope that clears up some things.
later today i may try to post something i have been trying to do with PS, since timezero is no longer available.
deena
03-05-2009, 07:09 AM
That's fascinating! Maybe you can explain more about this technique? Especially the use of a golf tee?
deena.
one can use a golf tee, or anyother type of "stick" . For instance i use a clay modeling tool with a small round metal ball at the end of the "stick".
One justs then applies pressure to the not dry emulsions with the "stick" (golf tee) and move it around as one wishes.
It takes a bit of practice, (or it did for me) to discover your vision, or style.
I must have gone through about 100 images before getting the results i really liked. Some of the first, UGH,
here is a link that might give you a better idea
http://www.daylab.com/SX-70_Manipulation/sx-70_manipulation.html
what you really do is move the chemicals around under the first latter of emulsion
the type of tool used will effect the "look". For example a sharp pointed tool will break easily through the emulsion all the way down to the black base, leaving sharper black lines.
Rolleimaniac
03-05-2009, 08:03 AM
No golfing implements were destroyed in production of this image J
This time, I used Terri’s tools which she purchased especially for the process; some look like a nut pick would with very tiny bb’s attached on the end.
I did get a bit of satisfaction from working the photo. The other picture of Zion I posted, well, I love the shot, but Mother Nature should receive all the credit. My contribution was loading the film and pulling the trigger; didn’t even process my own film…
Aggie- Gooping the Loop? Well, this just tells me I need to get out to red rock country more often so that I may Grock the local syntax. HeeHee…
Thank you all for viewing and giving me feedback.
Cheers,
Terri
03-05-2009, 09:47 AM
To be honest, i'm still completely confused by this alternative process. If I'm ever near Terri, you must show me what this is and on top of that prove to me that these actually did start out as photos.
Well, that part is easy enough. :razz:
This isn't the exact same image, of course - but close enough? I'm at work and I don't have the slide shots online where I can get them.
Brad was shooting 2 cameras, the slide film (chrome) in one, and Maco 820 infrared in the other. Apparently I stood there long enough, turning in various directions, for him to get both shots. :lol:
http://gallery.terrisprinkle.com/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=223&g2_serialNumber=2
But you do have a point, Karissa - it might be more visually interesting if I/we posted the straight slide shots first, and then the manipulated Polaroid next to it. Like a before/after thing.
PhotoJet
03-05-2009, 09:53 AM
With that sky, it would have surprised me if you didn't stand there very long! hahahaha
Terri
03-05-2009, 10:08 AM
With that sky, it would have surprised me if you didn't stand there very long! hahahahaIt was pretty slow going. We were sizing up shots around every bend, it seemed. Amazing place!
Aggie
03-05-2009, 10:15 AM
AWWW a quick trick to make the colors more believable on B&W film in red rock country is to use a orange filter. The sky looks dramatic but it bleaches the rocks out with what looks to be a red filter you used in that last shot. Bryce is at nearly 8000 ft. elevation so there is also the distortion of thinner atmospere.
Gooping the loop is where you take the main trail from the lodge down into the canyon. you start at the south end of the parking lot, and when you come up again you are at the north end. We did it at night and played all sorts of games. The we I refer to is the employees of the lodge and some of the off duty rangers. They discourage you from doing night hiking now. I have fond memories of that trail. But then there is one nich in the big tunnel at Sion National Park that is 3 feet deep. We use to go tunnel running at night and would hide in the niches when cars came by. It is now illegal to the point you go to prison (not jail) for doing it. Darn it. That niche was great to hide in with a boyfriend. Aw memories.
One of my best friends lives in Parowan. She worked for the forest service for nearly 30 years. During that time she logged into a GPS system all sorts of places that even locals don't know about. Before the nightmare began, she and I would go out kicking around exploring. Come out this way, and we will grab her and go for days...... Do you like buffalo? There is a guy who maintains a herd here that we ould get into photograph. It is up in the hills off the beaten path. Guess I better post a pic of something very inticing for red rockophiles.
Rolleimaniac
03-05-2009, 10:41 AM
AWWW a quick trick to make the colors more believable on B&W film in red rock country is to use a orange filter. The sky looks dramatic but it bleaches the rocks out with what looks to be a red filter you used in that last shot. Bryce is at nearly 8000 ft. elevation so there is also the distortion of thinner atmospere.
Gooping the loop is where you take the main trail from the lodge down into the canyon. you start at the south end of the parking lot, and when you come up again you are at the north end. We did it at night and played all sorts of games. The we I refer to is the employees of the lodge and some of the off duty rangers. They discourage you from doing night hiking now. I have fond memories of that trail. But then there is one nich in the big tunnel at Sion National Park that is 3 feet deep. We use to go tunnel running at night and would hide in the niches when cars came by. It is now illegal to the point you go to prison (not jail) for doing it. Darn it. That niche was great to hide in with a boyfriend. Aw memories.
One of my best friends lives in Parowan. She worked for the forest service for nearly 30 years. During that time she logged into a GPS system all sorts of places that even locals don't know about. Before the nightmare began, she and I would go out kicking around exploring. Come out this way, and we will grab her and go for days...... Do you like buffalo? There is a guy who maintains a herd here that we ould get into photograph. It is up in the hills off the beaten path. Guess I better post a pic of something very inticing for red rockophiles.
Yes Aggie- Please post some redrock photos..Man, I'd kill to have gone on those hikes with you...
BTW-the filter was a Rollei Infrarot filter...just bid on, and won, an orange filter for my Rollei SL66. I'm redrock ready!!!
:big grin:
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