2 attempts with Polaroid Artistic Z

[Terri]

These shots are both from slide film shot last May in South Beach.

I let the film sit at room temp for about an hour before popping it into the Daylab. Even with filtration the colors remain muted. I don't mind, since I will more than likely print them out for hand coloring.

Manipulation was about the same as Time Zero - except, of course, the dyes aren't the same. There were times I was bearing down quite hard and I am certain the former Time Zero would have given me the black gashes that let me know I'd gone through the bottom layer. This was actually more forgiving in that regard. I let the prints sit a good 15-20 minutes before starting, and as they were worked the dyes got easier to move.

It felt good, like I was able to step back in time and retrieve a lost art - an old friend!

This film won't last forever, of course, and I'm going to stretch it out as long as I dare. Faded or funky colors aren't an issue but the battery packs are.

Brad got a much more colorful result from the chrome he used. He'll post his later. I've a feeling there is a lot of Velvia in my future, to help boost this stuff! ;)


Top of a South Beach building:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v435/terriks/Alternative%20techniques/SoBeachSX70b.jpg



A plant from our balcony at the Albion:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v435/terriks/Alternative%20techniques/SoBeachSX702.jpg

And yes...I shot this same plant with HIE and made a lith print from it. ;)

Since I never thought to be able to do this again, I am encouraged with my first attempts. I am excited to think about shooting more slide film with manipulation in mind. Plus, hand coloring inkjets is always fun, and I'd like to play with the coloring on these.

*sigh* I miss Polaroid!

Comments always welcome! Thanks for looking. :)

[ann]

terri,
is this the "blend" version of time zero ?

did you try warming the photo before manipulation?

[Terri]

Ann: it's what Polaroid released last summer, what they're calling "Artistic Z". The box says "manipulable" on the front. Eight sheets to a pack. Not that "other" stuff that was sold for a short time, which was apparently not manipulable but fit into SX-70 cameras.

After I'd been working for an hour or so, I held one of them between my palms to warm it up a bit. In the old days during winter I'd have a piece of glass laid over a heating pad to line up a few prints. That was always helpful as I recall.

[ann]

i quess i stopped paying any attention to information regarding "new time zero", so am not familar with the Artistic Z. Is this going to be around, and if so,how?

I didn't think this type of film is included in the project impossible.

you could try heating it up in the oven at about 200 for a few minutes.

[TammyK]

I didn't know you could use the Daylab for instant fmaily like this. I thought it was just for peel apart!

Fascinating!

I also didn't know about this particular film, though I did hear they had been making something.

[PhotoJet]

WAAAAAAAYYYYY COOOOOOL!!! I love those! So cool, terri!!:cheer::cheer:

I have to say that the first time I ever saw anything like it was in Texas at the printing workshop Les McLean did... and they were yours, ann! I thought they were the neatest things I'd ever seen! :-)

[ann]

jeanette, thanks for the kind words.

tammy, you need a special holder for the film which is then placed under the daylab,
just another piece of equipment that is now a door stop.

[Terri]

I have to say that the first time I ever saw anything like it was in Texas at the printing workshop Les McLean did... and they were yours, ann! I thought they were the neatest things I'd ever seen! :-)
Ann does beautiful work with Polaroid. She should put her website address into her signature so everyone can enjoy it - and all her photography, for that matter. [hint, hint] ;)

Jeanette, Tammy, thanks for the kind words! I'm happy to be able to manipulate this film again, even if it has drawn criticism because of the admittedly faded dyes. Color is never an issue for me - I can add my own. :sillysmile:

Ann, I'll dig up some links so you can read more about this film. It was available for some time at Freeestyle, but that was last summer and it was a hefty price tag. I don't know offhand who might have some boxes now. It was listed as "Polaroid's final run" of SX-70 style film, and the expiration date is late 2009. I expect it will be fine another year beyond that. (crossing my fingers)

And yes - after this is gone, my SX-70 Daylab base will be gathering dust once again. Tammy, I have a Daylab 35 + which accepts several different bases: the regular for Type 669, a 120 base for 4x5 sheet film (plus the usual 545 style holder, sold separately), and the SX-70 base.

I bought them all, thinking Polaroid would be around forever. :) We'll see what the Impossible Project folks have in store for us. I have feeble hope now, as opposed to NONE.

[Terri]

Here is a link (http://www.polapremium.com/shop/film/sx70/fi_sx70_1_0909_artistic)....

And I'm an idiot. It's called Artistic TZ, a reference to the old Time Zero, duh! :crazy:

I clicked on the "Buy Now" tab and it didn't say it was out of stock, so you may be able to snag a few boxes. At $21 a box for 8 pieces of film, it's not cheap. (I didn't care, since it has given me a chance to manipulate again and re-use some long-dormant equipment.) You can only decide what works for you. :)

[ann]

thanks for the link.

i have a couple of boxes of stuff in the fridge, but who knows, they have been there awhile.

The price isn't the issue, it is getting movitative to work.

terri , it sounds as if we could set up a nice museum of polariod equipment.

terri, i can also add the address to my name, as soon as i figure out how lol.

[ann]

here is the link to my site

i may or maynot have been successful in adding it to my name

http://aclancyphotography.com/

[MissMia]

That is so cool! I'd love to work with film someday. I just need to get over my fear first. I have a couple cameras from my grandfather I'd love to shoot with.

[Terri]

That is so cool! I'd love to work with film someday. I just need to get over my fear first. I have a couple cameras from my grandfather I'd love to shoot with.Nothing to be afraid of. I bet your grandfather's cameras are less intimidating than your digital rig - a lot less knobs and buttons and whizz-bang thingeries. You're just used to them. :)

You might like it!

And thanks for the kind words. It's a fun process (you don't really need the Daylab slide printer, just an old SX-70 camera that shoots this film type). There's nothing like digging into a Polaroid print with a tool to get over that fear factor, too! :lol:

[Terri]

thanks for the link.

i have a couple of boxes of stuff in the fridge, but who knows, they have been there awhile.

The price isn't the issue, it is getting movitative to work.

terri , it sounds as if we could set up a nice museum of polariod equipment.

terri, i can also add the address to my name, as soon as i figure out how lol.
It's showing up correctly when I peeked at your profile, so it should be on your posts now. :) More people need to be able to view your stuff.


terri , it sounds as if we could set up a nice museum of polariod equipment.

Isn't that the truth. When I first read about Time Zero manipulations, you could still find SX-70 Land cameras pretty cheap. They were everywhere, with extra nice ones going for a little more on ebay. Then for a few golden (silly) years, the prices skyrocketed due to the "in" factor of messing with Polaroids.

Now the film is gone (or will be after this last batch) and the cameras are once again "affordable". ;) The Impossible Mission folks seem to be planning a film pack to fit that model, so they may yet have a life. Time will tell.

But the Daylab, the bases, the 8x10 Polaroid stuff (still in boxes).....museum bound.

[MissMia]

Nothing to be afraid of. I bet your grandfather's cameras are less intimidating than your digital rig - a lot less knobs and buttons and whizz-bang thingeries. You're just used to them. :)

You might like it!

And thanks for the kind words. It's a fun process (you don't really need the Daylab slide printer, just an old SX-70 camera that shoots this film type). There's nothing like digging into a Polaroid print with a tool to get over that fear factor, too! :lol:

I really want to shoot his Rolleicord. It just looks like a fun camera. I have all his slides and negatives and he took many pictures in Arizona with it. It would be fun to document the same images almost 60 years later.

Thanks for sharing your work with us!

[Terri]

I really want to shoot his Rolleicord. It just looks like a fun camera. I have all his slides and negatives and he took many pictures in Arizona with it. It would be fun to document the same images almost 60 years later.

Thanks for sharing your work with us!OMG - don't let Rolleimaniac read that. :naughty: He hates seeing one sitting alone and depressed.

I think you have a fantastic project for yourself some day - what a wonderful idea! In a funny way, I bet you will feel closer to your grandfather if you came behind him, visiting areas he visited and shooting them today, seeing it through his eyes. Very cool idea!

[PhotoJet]

You know... I actually like the muted colors. They work really well, especially with those two shots.

Miss Mia... it's ok... you've got all of us to help you out! :toast:
A Rollei...I am drooling. :cool:

[Antarctican]

The image of the plant on the balcony really grabs me! Beautiful.

[Terri]

Thanks, Anty!

Jeanette, the muted colors are growing on me, as well. I guess I'm used to the old Time Zero so this stuff just has to be appreciated for what it is.

I think these particular images work fine with it.

Brad will have to sign in and post his - he had very good results.

[TammyK]

Well, and I didn't know that the Daylab had so many bases to chose from! This Daylab technology was something I'd read about, and even thought about trying to get my hands on, but if I'd only known the possibilities of going from a real slide to a piece of any Polaroid, I would have been into it big time! And, then I would, too, join you all in the big doorstops by Polaroid group.:raisedbrow:

I have to say, that I didn't get in on the manips until the SX70 was already out the door. I've tried it on the "new" SX70, when they changed the formulation, and used all the heat tricks, etc, but still didn't manage to get much.

I like the muted colors here, as well as the gentle manips. They are SWEET!

MissMia, my support is with ya on the film thing! Film is really great.:love:

[ann]

just another bit of useless information.
Daylab also makes a piece of equipment for making images with digital files rather than film. (however, they may be sorry about this one, as it's cost was about 1200 dollars,)

[Rolleimaniac]

I really want to shoot his Rolleicord. It just looks like a fun camera. I have all his slides and negatives and he took many pictures in Arizona with it. It would be fun to document the same images almost 60 years later.

Thanks for sharing your work with us!

Did someone say Rolleicord!?!?!?!?!

What's amazing to me is that the 'humble' Rolleicord gets so little respect in the used camera market. Everyone wants to own the 2.8 Planar (or Xenotar) version of the ‘flex’ and a good condition Rolleicord or Rolleiflex Automat with a (Xenar/Tessar) lens can be had for a song.

I’ve blown up Kodak Vericolor negatives as large as 20X24 with terrific results (Xenar Lens).

One thing about the Rolleicord…I believe it uses a rubber band, opposed to gears, to focus, so if you to ever have one CLA’d ask about the condition of the band or see if a replacement is possible.

Some folk never warm up to using a Twin Lens but I love every minute I spend with mine.

Cheers,

[Terri]

just another bit of useless information.
Daylab also makes a piece of equipment for making images with digital files rather than film. (however, they may be sorry about this one, as it's cost was about 1200 dollars,)I think I'd heard about this, actually. Guess it never really took off, for that kind of jack, and it's sure too late now - unless of course the Impossible Mission folks somehow save the day in the end.